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spreadpoems
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Ted L Glines
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 Posted - 07/12/2008 : 10:54:35 AM
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Don, I am astounded that there have not been a ton of replies to this one. Plagarism is "The act of appropriating the literary composition of another author, or excerpts, ideas, or passages therefrom, and passing the material off as one's own creation."
(~http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Plagarism)
No. Plagarism is often wrong, and is sometimes illegal.
"Often?" "Sometimes?" Yes. Your literary work can be legally incorporated into an educational textbook, with or without your permission. "Educational purposes" is a major loophole in American copyright law. But, even when the work is incorporated into an educational textbook, your name (byline) must go with it.
If a person steals your work, removes your name from it, and substitutes their own name as the author - that is plagarism and you can sue them for copyright infringement if they are subject to American copyright law. And, there is a downside. Such a civil suit will be expensive, and unlikely to be won in court unless the thief has used your work(s) for monetary profit.
Copyright law is incorporated into treaties with some other countries, but not all. Patty Burkeen is a graphic artist. Her creations have been stolen by several "artists" in Peru and Venezuela. They have taken her work and published it in their countries, signing their own names as the author(s). There is nothing Patty can do about this, since American copyright law is not written into American/Peruvian/Venezuelan treaties (yet).
So, yes, plagarism is wrong. One of the sites which you gave to us merely used the poem without claiming authorship of it. The author of the poem should notify that Website to either (1) Put the author's name on the poem, or (2) Remove the poem from that Website. As a voluntary advocate for HaltAbuse.org, I would be pleased to handle that matter for the author. 
It comes down to this: Plagarism is wrong. It is simple theft. What are we going to do about it? In all my years of writing and publishing, I have only known of two of my pieces which were plagarized. I did not get all hot and bothered. Frankly, I was proud that someone thought my work of hign enough value to steal 
Others may not have my lax attitude. They may pursue their rights under the law, and they should do so. |
Ted L Glines
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Wendy Cooper
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Posted - 07/12/2008 : 12:46:44 PM
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| Personally I would be upset if it had someone else's name--no name would be better. Maybe its just my librarian nature :-) BUT I dont think plagerism is morally correct-never mind legally. |
Wendy Baral Cooper
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spreadpoems
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Posted - 07/12/2008 : 11:01:11 PM
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Since I posted this, I've learned a lot and that is that most teenagers who do post poems which they haven't written on MySpace etc., without the Authors name or source, are not aware of the legal, ethical or moral issues involved.
Once they know about it they don't do it.
We really do live in a world of mostly good hearted people.
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Wendy Cooper
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Posted - 07/30/2008 : 7:23:13 PM
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| I suppose thats the trouble with MySpace and Facebook...not to mention thatis why most kids today don't know that there is to, too and two as everything to them is 2. Texting infiltrates all written aspects of their life. |
Wendy Baral Cooper
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jacquelynrose420
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USA
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Posted - 08/04/2008 : 12:29:45 PM
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| My name is Jacquelyn Fisher. I am pissed about someone I don't even know stealing my poem. I'm not a member of family friend poems.com,but I do often post my poetry on myspace and a couple of other poetry websites like poetry.com and a few others....I was just browsing through the different poetry here at family friend poems and what do you know there's my work..... I am very upset. and by the way this woman just posted it today. need I say more, She tried to change some of the words but mostly that's mine. . but the title I wrote while I was in Jail, hence the name wasted time. |
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Ted L Glines
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Posted - 08/04/2008 : 1:12:29 PM
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| Jacquelyn, if your poem was previously posted or published under your name, it was date/time stamped and your copyright was immediately established. If your poem is subsequently published by some other person (substantially) unchanged, you can challenge the new "author's" right to claim authorship of that work. |
Ted L Glines
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Wendy Cooper
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 4:51:29 PM
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| Jacquelyn-I see Don has been efficient and the poem is gone, but i never got to read it. :-( I hope you come back and join FFP--and post some more. |
Wendy Baral Cooper
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miccy
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 8:07:05 PM
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i agree thats wrong when i put something down that i didn't write
i put the name or the name they have i would put a link but i don't know how to do that
plagerism is wrong and wendy if you click the link provided it will take you to the deleted thing
at lest it did for me and i'm so sorry jacquelyn about some one taking your poem |
maria caldwell was soo not here |
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Wendy Cooper
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Ted L Glines
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Posted - 09/14/2008 : 02:55:11 AM
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I think Miccy is referring to the link where something is posted, like the link for this topic:
http://www.familyfriendpoems.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=236 - which you will see up in the Address browser near the top of this screen. That like, like anything else, may be copied by highlighting it (Ctrl-c) and then pasting it (Ctrl-v) where you want it displayed.
When copying someone else's work, always ask their permission first. Most people will be pleased to say "Yes."  But, if you use their work without their permission, and they later find out about it, they may become very upset  Courtesy Rules |
Ted L Glines
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http://www.thewritingforum.net
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miccy
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Posted - 09/14/2008 : 1:49:54 PM
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| very true i send emails and ask i also save those emails just in case |
maria caldwell was soo not here |
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